Hi everyone,
Well a new year is coming and I am starting to think about "What's next" for my LD development. I thought I'd share some of my goals for 2006 and ask that you share yours as well.
I am at the point in my life that having a LD just for the sake of having a LD doesn't do much for me anymore. I want to look deeper and I have been spending a lot of time trying to figure out "how" to look and "what" to look for.
Here are a couple of things that I want to try in my upcoming LDs. Please share your ideas.
These are in no particular order:
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I want to see how well I remember my "real" life during an LD. For example can I remember the details of how my son and I built a snowman just the other day? Is the memory clear or clouded? Can I watch the memory unfold? If this is possible then I can I go a step further and go back to my childhood and see the events of my life?
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Can I aid in my spiritual development? One of the mediations that I do is designed to help open my third eye. I want to do this meditation during a LD. How can I use LDs to advance my spirituality?
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I would like to try to turn a LD into an OBE. Is there a way to move out of the dream realm and back into the physical? Can I simply ask to see the physical world?
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I speak Russian at an intermediate level. If I asked my dream characters to speak to me in Russian, would they? Would they speak at my level of understanding or at a more advanced level? Is it possible to tap into the collective unconscious and just let the language happen?
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I am very interested in my family roots and have spent a lot of time building my family tree. Can I use LDs to meet my ancestors? Can I talk to them or see glimpses of their lives?
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Can I use my dreams to help heal sickness? Either my own illnesses or of those around me?
These are just some of the experiences I hope to discuss on this forum in 2006.
Please share some of your own hopes for the New Year.
Take Care, Thomas
on Monday, December 19, 2005 Thomas Yuschak said:
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Can I aid in my spiritual development? One of the mediations that I do is designed to help open my third eye. I want to do this meditation during a LD. How can I use LDs to advance my spirituality?
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I would like to try to turn a LD into an OBE. Is there a way to move out of the dream realm and back into the physical? Can I simply ask to see the physical world?
Please share some of your own hopes for the New Year.
You can try to kill two birds with one stone, using your house as a resource. For spirituality, consider the attic of your house in your lucid dreams as representing your mind and spiritual ideals, and your basement as representing your instincts. Ideally, these places should be neat and clean in your dream, if not--you have more work to do.
For OBE, you may want to try telekinesis experiments. So go move some objects to see the result when you awaken.
As for the new year, it's been kind of rough since I had to start working the late shift, now I'm at work when the community meetings are held, and I can no longer attend all of them. This is especially sad for me because I had a chance to help allocate federal funds into the 'hood. Now that we are getting a new mayor next month, I wonder if he will delete my name from his offical mailing list.
Be that as it may, I'm looking forward to the next year in hopes that I can still reschedule for the big meetings when I find out about them.
As for my lucid dreams, now I just let them come naturally, and I hope to do more exploring of my territories.
Cheers, James
Hi Thomas, Good idea-Goal Setting.
My goal is to be able to program what I want to Lucid Dream about. Since our minds even during the day have a tendancy to wander at such rapid paces, the dreaming state could be difficult to control too. The main advantage with Lucid Dreaming is that once I know that I am dreaming I normally don't have any trouble at that point remembering I intended to do something in the dream. It's just that it is hard to actually change the dream and do what was intended. So via either spinning, (I tried that by the way and it did not work, couldn't change a thing. Rock Solid environment that wouldn't budge.) Or hand rubbing I will attempt to change the dreamscape to something else once I become Lucid.
If anyone knows of other methods besides spinning and hand rubbing to change a LD dream into another drama at our own choosing, let me know. Nothing elaborate, just another simple method.
Patricia
Hello Patricia,
In my years of lucid dreaming, I have never tried to actively change my current dream into another one entirely. But what I do do is explore to see what my mind is up to. I don't see why this couldn't be adapted by you. Instead of say spinning, go and look for your new scenario. One of my favorite things to do was to fly down the hill, through the trees, of my "power" territory to see what was going on in the "valley." Using the house as an example, I loved to see what I might find lurking in my basement storerooms or my attic crawlspaces.
So in essence, try opening some new doors with your goal in mind.
James [ ; )
Hello All,
I have had one of the most moving LDs of my life. In it I incorporated several new methods that may be of interest to you. First let me describe my experience and then I will summarize some of my methods.
It started in the basement of my parent's house. It was a finished basement and very different from their real basement. My father was showing me a piece of audio equipment that he wanted me to have. It had a computer interface and he was showing me all of the many different features. After a few minutes and a few questions, I said that I would take it. I started to walk upstairs and I remembered that I had told myself at bedtime that my next set of experiences would take place in the dream realm. I decided to do a reality check. I also remembered that my new reality check would involve levitating instead of flying in hopes of not disturbing the dream. I gave it a try and proceeded to lift up off the stairs by a few inches. "Ah I made it!' I said.
I remembered my rehearsals and told myself the following, "Remember that this body is my dream body and my physical body is now sleeping. Remember that this world is my dream world. Nothing can hurt me here. I will proceed with deliberate calmness'.
I set off on my mission which was to find myself as child. I walked outside. Per my plan I surveyed my surroundings. It was daytime and unfamiliar houses lined the streets. "Which door?' I thought. I saw a little girl with blondish brown hair riding a pink bicycle on the other side of the street. She looked to be 4 or 5 years old. I walked over and said, "Show me that door that leads to my childhood memories'. She looked up at me with big brown eyes and pointed to a house across the street. It was an old, run down, two story white house with a big front porch. I smiled at her and said thanks and then ran across the street and over to the house. The front door was opened but there was a dusty screen door with the paint peeling off that was closed. I could see inside and notice that the inside of the house was very dirty and dusty. I knocked. "Who is it?' The voice came from an elderly woman who I could now see was sitting in a chair in the living room. I said, "I'm looking for Tommy. Is he here?' "No', she said. "Where is he?' "He's outside playing.' "Do you know where?' "Down the street.' I left the house and walked down the street looking all around me. The little girl came riding by on her bike. "I'll show you', she said as she rode by. I followed her down past several houses to a field where a group of children were playing a game of baseball. The little girl pointed. I ran through the field and looked closely at each child. I didn't see him. There was a woman standing off on the side and I walked over and asked, "Where's Tommy?' "He just left" "Where did he go?' "He went home because he didn't feel good" "Thanks" I said. I ran back to the house and knocked once more on the screen door. This time a man's voice said "Leave us alone" in a strong and demanding voice. I noticed that he was sitting in the same chair that the elderly woman had been in. "No', I said, "I'm looking for Tommy'. His voice got very angry and he stood up out of the chair, "I said leave US ALONE!' and he started to walk toward the door in an aggressive manner.
I thought "Nothing can hurt me here" and then I opened the door and walked in, looked him straight in the eyes and said "This is important I need to find Tommy'. His demeanor calmed somewhat and he said "He's upstairs'.
I turned and noticed a stairway on the other side of the room and walked briskly over and up the stairs. There was a small room at the top and I entered. There on the floor was a small boy around two years old. "Tommy?' I asked. He nodded. I ran over and picked him up and hugged him. "I've been looking for you'. He smiled and I felt an indescribable emotion come over me. I noticed that the boy looked very similar to my childhood pictures but his hair was little darker. I decided not to question the matter and I carried him outside and told him that I had some things I wanted to show him. He smiled. When we went outside I noticed that there were bees flying around everywhere. ' there's bees nest here!' I ran down the front steps and then paused. "This is dream', I reminded myself, "nothing can hurt me hurt me here'. For a moment I considered walking back up the stairs and standing amidst the bees. I decided against it and we both smiled at each other and proceeded on.
The next part of the dream seemed to go on forever. I carried my younger self and around to all sorts of different places, talking to him and showing him things. I showed him that we could fly, that we could leap to the top to tallest buildings, and I told him that he need not be afraid. At some point I noticed that I could hear music playing. The music continued for the rest of the dream I commented on how good the songs were and that I would like to remember them. At one point we went to a lake and there were a group of dolphins leaping from the water. I walked to the waters edge and my younger self got scared as the dolphins jumped and splashed right by our side. "Don't be scared, they won't hurt us'. I leaned down and held out my hand. Three dolphins swam over and started licking my hand. "See, they're friendly'. We laughed.
After a long while we went back to the house and saw that police cars were everywhere. The man who I had talked to was in the process of trying to burn down the house to hide some kind of evidence. There were a lot of other people there as well all trying to set off small explosives and destroy the house. I walked across the street and into a small grouping of trees just as the house exploded into flames. The man sped away in an old car and the police followed. We went back to the lake. This time there were dozens of dolphins and several large whales swimming and jumping out of the water. I asked Tommy if he liked the music that was playing endlessly and he smiled. "Watch this', I said as I ran out on the water, walking on top of the wet surface. We went right out to the middle with the whales and dolphins jumping all around us.
I came back on shore and looked him in the eyes said that I loved him but I must be going now. I told him that we were part of each other and that I would always be with him. He smiled. I took him back to the house which was now totally rebuilt and clean and full of people. I set him down and said, "Are you going to be alright?' He said "Yes'. I said goodbye and turned and ran out of the house and jumped off of the front step. As I jumped I yelled "It's time to wake up!'
I awoke and stood up. I immediately notice that things didn't look right. "That's strange my bed looks different'. It was some kind of futon type thing. "I'm still dreaming!'. Just then BF ran in, "Where have you been?! I had to call an ambulance!'
"An ambulance, what happened?' "There was a man in our bedroom taking pictures and I had to hurt him. Come see!' She started to run down the stairs and I started to follow and then paused. "No', I thought "I really need to get up and write this down'. I shouted again "Wake up!!'
This time I did.
I did several things different in this LD than in any other that I have had in the past. First off, I programmed it. In the week since my last LD I sent myself a series of emails, both to my work and to my home that detailed my intention to see my younger self. I also detailed my approach to try to achieve a higher level of lucidity. No longer would I fly to prove that I was lucid. This tends to overpower the natural dream plot. My approach was to levitate instead. This still fully demonstrated the fact that I was dreaming but allowed for a minimum disruption of events. Next, I didn't just say "hey, I am dreaming'. But in addition reminded myself that my physical body was still sleeping and that this body and in fact this world were part of my own and personal dream world. Finally I reminded myself that I had nothing to fear and that nothing could hurt me.
I also took an entirely different approach at controlling the events. Instead of commanding that my dream be at my beck and call, I gently guided it to my purpose by involving the dream in my plan. I did this by speaking to the little girl and saying "Show me that door that leads to my childhood memories'.
Patricia, you asked for alternatives in changing your dreamscape. I have, in the past, successfully used spinning to change my location but I want to develop something more subtle. The answer: doors. I plan on really developing this approach over the next year. Want to go someplace different then just find the right door and go through.
Also, although I didn't mention it in the above account, I paused on no less than three different occasions and quickly went over the main points of the dream in my mind while the dream was still happening. This helped burn it into my memory.
Finally, I didn't wait to wake up but instead forced myself to awaken in order to better remember the dream in its entirety.
Take Care, Thomas
Hello Thomas I posted an email in answer to yours.I recieved a postmaster message telling me that it could not be delivered, and I am sure that I had the email correctly.Can you tell me if it has arrived since? I was very interested in your dream. It has a lot of connatations of healing in it.I recognise this from working with hundreds of people over the years. You did ask if it was possible to heal yourself or others via dreams, it looks like you are finding out it is entirely possible. I myself used a dream a few years ago to heal myself from what was supposed to be a terminal illness. I can share this with you if you are interested.Or anyone else if they are interested. I have to say that my dream life with or without LDS has always been aimed at finding out who I realy am or should I say, know who I am.and there is a world of difference in believing and knowing.Like you I find flying around a bit ordinary these days and have started to levitate instead. Do you know that for me, healing always seems to involve love. Just lately my dreams have had me in the arms of just about everyone I know and some I dont.When I awaken these people are so much more loving,friendly and generous, even the ones I havnt particularly liked. Question?Am I healing myself or, Am I healing them, Or is it one and the same thing? Wonderful Lucid dream Thomas Im inspired. My goal is healing and more healing. Regards Serena.
Hello James and Thomas, Thank you for other alternatives to Spinning and Hand Rubbing to change the Dreamscape. Going thru doors, (I know Jason does this Random Door thing that has interesting results.) with my goal in mind. I did this last night. To keep is short and get to the point, while coming down a spiral staircase I decided I wanted to see a particular person once I got down and turned the corner. When I did all I saw was two people doing laundry and neither looked like who I wanted to see, but one of them was dressed similarly. It's great that I was able to so quickly realize in the LD that I wanted and anticipated a change. Needs more work though, because it didn't materialize thoroughly. Spinning by its mere nature is just going help me lose my balance and that could force me awake prematurely. Hand rubbing isn't so volitale so I could do that and also the expectation of change while going thru doors or walking into a different room etc. is viable.
Happy Holidays, Patricia
Hello Serena it's great to hear from you. I am on holiday and won't have access to my email until Tuesday or Wednesday of next week. I'll let you know then if I received your note.
Patricia, if it had been me I would have asked one of the two people where the person was that you were looking for. My question would have been stated more like a polite command however (i.e. Show me where so and so is, or, which way do I go to find so and so). Try to stay away from yes or no type questions though.
Have a Merry Christmas everybody. Thomas
Well after talking about what goal setting we would like to do, and I decided that I would focus on healing,on the 26th I had a very long and detailed lucid dream which ends a dry spell for me hurrah. I spent a very long time asking people where the healing room was,so I could start to learn the art, I was told after awhile that it was in the ivory tower,and I then started to move up in layers one floor at a time I remembered my commitment and was determined to reach this place Unfortunately for me I awoke before I reached it. Oh well practice makes perfect, next time I will try being more specific Happy lucid dreaming for 2006 to all Regards Serena
Congratulations Serena,
Sounds like a great experience!
Thomas
Seasons Greetings fellow dreamers!!! May 2006 be a fine year where all your dreams come lucid!! I am excited about this year - I have an opportunity to devote a good chunk of time and energy on my dreaming now, something I have been wanting very badly!! I would like to organize and review my 25 years of dream journal adventures and seriously pump up my lucid dreaming muscles. Hopefully attending the next dream retreat!